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Aussies win the final, in farcical cirumstances....bowling the last 2 overs (after being told it was over, and they started setting up the podium!) in near darkness.
Gilly was on fire....149 off 100-odd balls....which set up the big total.
The bowlers then did their job, and thats 3 in a row...something even the legendary Windies teams of the 70s and 80s never accomplished.
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Was Gilly's innings illegal
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Barry d**k
May 04, 2007 01:35pm
CRICKET fans on the sub-continent have questioned Adam Gilchrist's match-winning innings in the World Cup final because he had a squash ball inside his batting glove.
Gilchrist belted 149 off just 103 balls to rip the rain-shortened final away from Sri Lanka but cricket bloggers in Sri Lanka, Pakistan and India have now asked whether the Australian wicketkeeper's innings was "legal".
After the match, Gilchrist said he had "something" in his left glove during his innings and when he reached his century he repeatedly pointed to his left batting glove with his right hand.
"I had a little message, to wave to someone at home in Australia about something in my glove," Gilchrist told the post-match media conference.
He then confirmed the message was for his batting coach and former West Australia player Bob Meuleman who, Gilchrist said, had advised him to carry a squash ball in his left, bottom hand to help him with his grip.
"His (Meuleman's) last words to me before I left the indoor training centre where I train with him in Perth were, 'If you are going to use it (squash ball), make sure when you score a hundred in the final you show me and prove to me you got it in there'. I had stayed true to that."
Some cricket fans are now asking whether, if Dennis Lilee's aluminium bat, Ricky Ponting's graphite-coated bat and Hanie Cronje's earpiece were declared illegal, Gilchrist's squash ball should be deemed an illegal artificial aid to batting.
To read what the bloggers have to say go to: http://wordpress.com/tag/cricket-etcetera/
"Two questions arise," wrote one blogger. "If using a squash ball isn't ok as per the laws of the game, is his innings legal and does it count? And if it doesn't count, can Australia claim to have won a hopelessly one-sided and farcical victory?"
Another blogger said Gilchrist had indicated the squash ball in his left glove helped him with his grip during his "stupendous knock".
"But that's also where questions over the legality of Gilchrists innings, or the seeming lack of it, come in," he wrote. "Can a batsman carry an objectin this case, a squash ballnot connected with cricket to help him on the field? Did he secure the prior permission of the umpires? Was the fielding side captain aware of the use of the squash ball? Did (Sri Lankan captain) Mahela Jayawardene approve its use?
"And, above all, and in a manner of speaking, did Gilchrists hidden ball give him an unfair advantage in knocking the daylights out of the Lankan bowlers?"
He lists the law of cricket No.3 as saying:
"Before the toss and during the match, the umpires shall satisfy themselves that
(a) the conduct of the game is strictly in accordance with the Laws. (b) the implements of the game conform to the requirements of Laws 5 (the ball) and 6 (the bat), together with either Laws 8.2 (size of stumps) and 8.3 (the bails) or, if appropriate, Law 8.4 (junior cricket). (c) (i) no player uses equipment other than that permitted. (ii) the wicket-keepers gloves comply with the requirements of Law 40.2 (gloves)."
Jerome Gasperson joined the blog from Australia: "You have very valid points and there are a few more unanswered questions that are worth pursuing further:
1) Gilchrist never used the squash ball in the past and also in any of the other 10 games prior to the finals. Did the squash ball help?
2) Gilchrist was out of form and didnt score many runs in the whole World Cup tour apart from the finals. Did the squash ball provide Gilchrist the required assistance to bring him back to form?
3) The World Cup final was between Sri Lanka and Gilchrist (not Australia). All other in-form Australian batsmen were struggling to score except the out-of-form Gilchrist who had this squash ball to enhance his grip or did it?
4) Most of his shots, mainly his eight sixes, were massive and cleared the grounds. Did the squash ball help?
5) The number of sixes hit by Gilchrist amounts to eight in the finals, compared to two in the previous 10 games. Is it because of the squash ball?
6) Gilchrist's average without the last innings would have been a mere 30.40 compared to the 45.30 after the finals. Did the squash ball help to boost his average?
7) Gilchrist's strikerate without the last innings would have been 91.57 compared to the 103.89 after the finals. Again, did the squash ball provide that extra power?
"I am not taking anything away from Adam Gilchrist's excellent innings," Gasperson wrote. "That was an amazing innings which will be remembered by many for years to come. However, the question still remains: is it legal to use such equipment and will it provide assistance?"
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,21670701-10389,00.html |
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Fri May 04, 2007 12:14 pm |
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 - and the Cricket thread opens its portals once again......
Let battle with our colonial friends* resume
Normal rules apply:
1. A bit of gentle sledging allowed 
2. Crowing when England win is mandatory 
3. Swearing and slagging off the Aussies
if
England lose is acceptable
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any of u guys going to the test matches ? |
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Very game of you Dinger to get this thread up and running right when we haven't lost a wicket all day and we have 2 batsmen on the verge of 150 runs each 
Tipping at this stage it might be the quietest thread on this forum bar the "I Love Roy Hodgson" one 
Expect England to come back at some stage....it might not be this Test match but I think the last series when we should have won in Cardiff (which eventually cost us the Ashes) showed you Poms have a bit of heart at last compared to the spineless teams of the 90's when Warnie and Pigeon were taunting you with 5-0 predictions before the series even started.
If the Poms can somehow scab a draw out of this match, it will bode well for you.....even 1-0 down isn't hard to make up considering a drawn series means you still retain the Ashes...but it will test the mentality of the English and whether it is a "here we go again" or they can show the same fight they showed in England in the last Ashes series.
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The aussie tale collapsed but the damage had already been done.
Surprised England didnt lose any wickets in the last session
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The aussie tale collapsed but the damage had already been done.
Surprised England didnt lose any wickets in the last session
Yeah, it should be a drawn Test now.
The pitch is still in good nick for the batters and I can't see the Poms getting a decent enough total to declare and then bowl us out within a day. |
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dropped catches unusual for the aussies
A good batting performance by England well until tonight (tomorrow)
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f**k hell.....stay up until 3am and see us get done over by a country one-sixth the size of Tasmania to host the world cup...then with bleary eyes see Liverpool scrape a draw in some God forsaken hole...and then peel myself out of bed to see the start of the 2nd Test and after 15 minutes was wondering if I was still asleep and just endured a nightmare for any Aussie sportsfan 
Obviously FIFA felt bad for you missing out on 2018 and decided to pay the 3rd umpire some beer money to give Harris out....LBW when he hit the ball, and still given out after he appealed and the video showed he hit the ball?
Piss of Blatter!!!! 
Oh well....least I can say the sun will rise tomorrow here just hope our bowlers rise to the occasion (and I don't mean Pup pulling some hot pant after a few frothies either ) |
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Better not get too complacent as the Aussies are bowling better this innings than the lat innings as they now have TWO wickets
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Gee, what a bummer of a Test...there goes the whitewash for us...looks like we have to settle for a 2-1 series win instead |
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Gee, what a bummer of a Test...there goes the whitewash for us...looks like we have to settle for a 2-1 series win instead
 Great to see that you havent lost your sense of humour yet Mat..........
Which is more than can be said for Botham and Chapell I hear ...... nudge nudge
Wow .... and I thought the British Press pulled no punches - check this out from a Sydney newspaper ..
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/second-ashes-test-player-ratings-20101207-18o71.html
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I see Warne is still doing a pom bashing of sorts......Him and Liz Hurley
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I see Warne is still doing a pom bashing of sorts......Him and Liz Hurley
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1-1...game on |
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1-1...game on
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings Mat but .................looks like your guys were not good in 2010....... no xmas presents for them by the looks of the first day's play
Here they got a pretty rough time from the local press ...... fickle arent they !
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apologies for my late arrival on to this thread....... stayed up for the 1st session of the 4th test last night- absolutely estatic when Anderson got Hussey out- i went to bed thinking that was a terrific start until i woke up later on and saw we'd bowled 'em all out for 98!!
come on England!! bring those Ashes back home |
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Look at all the termites coming out of the Pommy woodwork now!
Oh well, its been 20+ years in hibernation when it comes down to winning a series in Australia so I guess I shouldn't be so harsh.
Hate to see what the celebrations will be like back there...if beating us once got them an MBE (didn't Collingwood get one for scoring 7 runs against us at The Oval? )....then getting a series win over here?
Shit!!!
Still...Melbourne....renowned for 4 seasons in 1 day...and we are Australia....you never know and never give up.
Lets see what happens....can we pull off the impossible??? |
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Lets see what happens....can we pull off the impossible???
Mat I am afraid to say they needed week-long monsoon rain or 4 feet of snowfall to have rescued that game ........
It will be interesting to see if Ponting is made the scapegoat
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Lets see what happens....can we pull off the impossible???
Mat I am afraid to say they needed week-long monsoon rain or 4 feet of snowfall to have rescued that game ........
It will be interesting to see if Ponting is made the scapegoat
Congratulations to England.
You lot played better this series.
First time you have retained the Ashes down here for quarter of a century and all the celebrating around the streets of Melbourne last night just shows you how big of a result this is for you lot and how good we have been over the years.
Read this article last night:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/dec/29/ashes-2010-humility-humbled-australia
I have no problem losing to a better team but for journos now to come out after England retain the Ashes for the first time down here in 20+ years and think we should learn from a team that still isn't even the best in the world (we were just poorer) is a bit rude.
Come back and retain the Ashes for 15+ years and win 3 World Cups in a row and we'll talk
Sport is cyclical....and we've had our turn at the top...simple as that.
We need to blood the next crop of younger players and the selectors need to stop the NSW-bias (Hughes should never have been picked) and start picking the best AUSTRALIAN players and give them a good go at cementing their spot.
How Brad Hodge has been ignored for years now is beyond me.
To answer your question...at the moment, yes...Punter is being made the scapegoat....which to me is half-right.
He has been in poor form but Clarke (the heir apparent to the captaincy) has been even poorer.
So I don't know what the media were expecting...? |
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Andrew Strauss went in to the England dressing room with a vintage bottle of wine to celebrate the ashes triumph yesterday. Unfortunately, the bottle was still sealed as Australia doesn't have any decent openers.
Lol
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